no human rights in europe and belgium

[dalabasoglu]

I don't belive that europe save the human rights,especially the belgium.
Fehriye erdal is a terrorist,a murder...killed three people in turkey in a daytime!
and belgium save her!....a terrorist....is not even a türk!
say me all?

why didn't the same belgium save the three innocent people,that were been killed by this dirty-angel fehriye erdal!

where were you the human rights savers?...the three people were being killed by her?

why didn't you save them...the innocents?

is this the human rights!......it doesn't suits on you any more!........i don't want your two-facedmadellion!

you don'T know about turkey anymore!

come this year the safest country to have a hooliday and study your lesson about human rights!

bye!

[Rikbe]

It are certainly not Turks that have the right to speak about human rights. In Belgium are newspapers too.
Erdal is suspected of complicity in a murder that is not considered as a terrorist act.
Belgium, alike all civilized countries does not extradite to countries were death penalty is still used and human rights are not respected.
Erdal did not major offense in Belgium, the organization from which she is a member was legal in Belgium. The only offense here is that she was in possession of weapons.

Your threads are just slander and if Turkish government thinks like this, Erdal would even not have a fair trial. Political prisoners have a bad habit to die in Turkey before their trial.

[imported_Shadow]

Wearing sunglasses see? so I can't see right from wrong..

It is with a (yea yea misplaced I know) snear of amusement in my heart that I observe two parties quarreling about what is just or not. Justice-Seeker unless you truly are a Judge by profession (and even then!) who exactly were you again to proof guilt of a suspect of anything for that matter..in this case a murder of ppl. I'm going to add right away here that I don't know anything about this case as I rather spend my time playing with dragons too . But know what? I don't need to know either whether or not the girl is guilty. Am I guilty with ignorance? Perhaps...Sue me! Hey I'm only human, remember? Can't know everything.. But I'm glad you taught me that this lady here is a cold-blooded murdress coz YOU said so! And now what... I'm sure there are more than one Turkish murderer in Belgium... and before you throw the term racist communist at me as well (we're getting used to that by now, lol), I'm sure there are some Belgian murderers in Turkey too. Solution? Let's blame eachother for a while how stupid and ignorant and what not our countries are, I'm sure that's gonna help. Step two might be let's hate eachother for being sooo ignorant that it's impossible to live with one another and before we reach step three it might be to late to even walk anymore... Like I said I don't know Ferhyy Furball ..whatever.. and yea I'm sad that murderers exist so let's not make eachother sick and try to live in peace so that there won't be too many frustrated criminals left in this world. Guilty until proven innocent is a way of thinking the USA is so fond of too. And as far as I know your hero Mr Bush is an American too. So if you think that is a bad way of thinking then I understand why we still live in these wrong thoughts that in Turkey indeed ppl tend to have a shorter life span once they enter the dark room. Happy Birthday on your 18 years..and I thought you said Belgium was medieval...Anyways I do so agree on the fact that our gvt has a lot of mistakes, we're a champion in creating them too, but to say that therefore this is a terroristic country....??? Let's hope not or maybe I should move to Turkey huh...better weather and all I'm sure too . So pls don't shout, if she's a criminal let's hope it can be *proven* for the sake of all the innocent having been punished during trial already in the past. Now where's my dragon...

[Rikbe]

Hello Shadow,

Sorry for coming back here so late, I had a few things to take care off.

About these Turkey friends, I am afraid you are either against them or with them. No middle way.

The whole discussion started because of these friends started to accuse my country of awful things. Before I never heard of that girl Ferhey (very cute indeed). So I started to look up what the newspapers wrote about this case and I discovered a total different version of what they (Turkish) wrote, what I explained.

Result was insults and menaces. To me it is clear what kind of people like Justice Seeker belongs to. It is very cynical to take that name.

[CengizHan]

What the hell does it mean Turks dont have a right to talk??Here we see the perfect example of Belgian(and european) human rights mentality.Lets assume that Turkey actually is opressing people and is backward(which is not true).So we as Turkish people, dont have a right to critisize, because our country does the same!!You people are really smart!!So we desrve to be as we are bad people.

I see there is no middle way.Be against us then.I hope all Turks hoping to join EU would read this and have an opinion on what the general racist public thinks.

[ricky0518]

hi,buddy

i quite agree you,do you know any organisation of human rights in brussels?

my e-mail is ricky0518@sina.com

Originally posted by Rikbe
It are certainly not Turks that have the right to speak about human rights. In Belgium are newspapers too.
Erdal is suspected of complicity in a murder that is not considered as a terrorist act.
Belgium, alike all civilized countries does not extradite to countries were death penalty is still used and human rights are not respected.
Erdal did not major offense in Belgium, the organization from which she is a member was legal in Belgium. The only offense here is that she was in possession of weapons.

Your threads are just slander and if Turkish government thinks like this, Erdal would even not have a fair trial. Political prisoners have a bad habit to die in Turkey before their trial.

[Rikbe]

Originally posted by ricky0518



hi,buddy

i quite agree you,do you know any organisation of human rights in brussels?

my e-mail is ricky0518@sina.com

http://www.google.be/search?q=human+...cr%3DcountryBE

I prefer to post it here, so our Turkish friends can learn something.

[hakancan]

rikbe

every human has a right to speaking about human rights
and the topic is not "who has a right to speak about human rights" understood? but may be you are full of hatred against to turks and this hinder you to see turks are human
if the topic it is
if the humans hasnt a right to speaking about human rights who has a right to speaking?
i guess a mentality like yours which hinder people to criticize becuae of their nationality

you must learn to control your racist feelings

[Rikbe]

Originally posted by hakancan
rikbe

every human has a right to speaking about human rights
and the topic is not "who has a right to speak about human rights" understood? but may be you are full of hatred against to turks and this hinder you to see turks are human
if the topic it is
if the humans hasnt a right to speaking about human rights who has a right to speaking?
i guess a mentality like yours which hinder people to criticize becuae of their nationality

you must learn to control your racist feelings

This topic is about "No human rights in Belgium and EU".
If I am full of hatred for against Turks, how do you explain that I defend Erdal who is in my eyes as much Turk as the others?
I don't care a damn about Turks or Kurds as long as they stay in their country and out of the EU. This not because they are Turk but because they have a racistic religion.

[hakancan]

you defend her cause she is a member of a terror organisation called DHKP/C against to turkey and whose position as terrorist well known by everyone but a legal organisation in your country like kadek
also pkk was a legal organisation for you after they converted name to kadek than pkk became illegal i impressed
turkey republic has no religion
turks has not a racistic religion
also this topic has nothing with religion
also this topic has nothing with kurds
you are trying to create an artificial enmity
why arent you understand? is it really very difficult to see?

[Rikbe]

Originally posted by hakancan
you defend her cause she is a member of a terror organisation called DHKP/C against to turkey and whose position as terrorist well known by everyone but a legal organisation in your country like kadek
also pkk was a legal organisation for you after they converted name to kadek than pkk became illegal i impressed
turkey republic has no religion
turks has not a racistic religion
also this topic has nothing with religion
also this topic has nothing with kurds
you are trying to create an artificial enmity
why arent you understand? is it really very difficult to see?

Either you did not read the postings I wrote about Erdal, either you did not understand them. In both cases I see no reasons to explain this again.

Last elections the Muslims party won, what leaves certain serious doubts about the secularity of the Turkish state in the future. Muslims have the nasty habit to change constitutions and laws in their favour.

[hakancan]

firstly there are some facts which you need to learn
there is nothing like muslim party you are ignorant
allthough you dont know again you are talking and claiming the unrealistic things
firstly there is nothing like muslim party in turkish parliament
they called theirselves as conservative democrat party
and they couldnt get votes of majority, %67 of turkey used their votes for another parties
also the people who gave their votes to them are fed up with the others,they started to hate the others like Mesut Yýlmaz and Tansu Çiller,Recai Kutan
they gave their votes for sacking others and they did
understood?
there is no risk for turkey's secular system
our nation faithfully pleased with the secular system

[Aardvark]

Dalabasoglu,

Ever heard of a language called "English". Maybe you should learn it one day.

[moods]

Turks go on and criticizing and they never critisize their own Country and Human Rights!

The European Court for human Rights found Turkey Responsible for violating the Basic human rights Of Turkish and Greekcypriots!!!

[hakancan]

lol


look who is saying such a thing?


sorry where were you from?


BTW Mr Lawyer in here again and he has everyright to judge turks, and overlooking the mistakes of own side and also he has everyright to refuse answering questions
and also he has a right accuse people about mentioning past besides he has a right to criticize countries with so-called events which happened in the past